jules
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| 07/03/2006 12:29 PM |
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When and Where are the windsurfing Nationals going to be this year. This would include WAVE , Slalom and Formula.
Cast your vote here for date and venue. |
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fanatic001 (guest)
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| 08/03/2006 5:57 PM |
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do it in early January 07 when everyone is on holiday, all top European pros are here - like that we´ll have at least a good fleet to compete against and makes it more attractive....and I can enter the masters division too :-)
Craig Gertenbach, from cold, snowy Germany |
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waggy (guest)
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| 08/03/2006 8:46 PM |
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brilliant idea craig
but get the calendar going soon dates will fill soon
lots happennig jan 2007 |
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Jaco
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| 10/03/2006 8:19 AM |
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| I'm not a racing sailor yet but would like to start from this year, around the 16th of december, langebaan was good last year why not have it there again? |
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Shaun (guest)
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| 13/03/2006 7:40 PM |
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Hi Jules,
I thought it had already been decided that it was going to be in PE? I've been told this since Jan already. |
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jules
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| 13/03/2006 8:10 PM |
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Yep. the Nationals are due to be held in PE.
Problem... The PE guys are not very intereted in hosting it.
I have had no response to a number of emails etc.
Fact: If they don't host it this year there will not a 2006 Nationals.
J |
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pesailor (guest)
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| 13/03/2006 9:31 PM |
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| Yep, there wont be a nationals! |
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PESAILOR (guest)
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| 13/03/2006 9:52 PM |
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| Unless you go elsewhere, may as well have it in the vaal, no waves needed for nationals these days. |
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dick (guest)
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| 13/03/2006 10:08 PM |
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| what about swartkops i beleive they have a good ripple there |
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Jules (guest)
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| 14/03/2006 7:02 AM |
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Let me remind you, national’s only needs to constitute two disciplines.
So if you want to run Wave and Slalom for nationals you can. And if you want to do Slalom in the waves… all the better
Last year they ran all three
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Shaun (guest)
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| 14/03/2006 7:29 AM |
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Jules,
I'll buzz you later in the week about this. |
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Eugene (guest)
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| 14/03/2006 8:16 AM |
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| I dont think anyone in PE is interested in hosting nationals, especially after last years debacle. I think the local wave contest will still be on though, we had more contestants than the nationals and it was great fun. The contest caters for all levels of sailors and is a great way to get into wavesailing in a safe enviroment. Even if you are a complete novice, you are welcome to join us. |
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Peace (guest)
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| 14/03/2006 8:47 AM |
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Just put away all your petty differences and show the rest of SA what PE has to offer. Have the Nationals there and get over it. Sounds like hugs are in order.
The Hobbie Worlds were there last year, the Iron Man is there this weekend, so why not the Nationals? Better yet, why not show us how much better you are doing things and guide the others?
Surely PE is the " Friendly City?"
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Eugene (guest)
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| 14/03/2006 9:20 AM |
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| Well the PE guys seem to have made it clear they are not interested, so why not have it elsewhere. Seems stupid not to have it, give the vaalies a chance! or maybe the durbs guys want it. |
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Matthew
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| 14/03/2006 9:50 AM |
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Where should the nationals take place? The ideal (in my opinion) would be to rotate, giving each city a chance...its better that way, as we get to travel a bit and experience windsurfing at different breaks in SA, hanging out with different people...
However rotating assumes that there is an abundance of people in each city really WANTING to host the nationals, and committing to doing a good job.
Since no-one is likely to organise the event outside their hometown, it actually becomes more about the PEOPLE, not the city.
PLEASE lets not make the mistake of thinking it has to take place in a specific city because of 'fairness' to the local sailors. If there is no enthusiasm from local organisors or they feel obliged to organise it in order to 'keep' the nationals then its already doomed to mediocrity!
I think the nationals should be 'tendered' for.
There are positive spinoffs for the people who take the initiative, so why not lets see a motivational statement from anyone wanting to host the event, briefly outlining why they should be given the honour!
What's your concept? How much effort are you going to put in? How big are the parties going to be?
For many sailors attendance at the nationals involves consumption of annual leave, family time etc. so whoever gets the nationals should at least commit to trying their best and making it one hell of good time ;-)
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Coots (guest)
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| 14/03/2006 12:21 PM |
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Cape Town is the logical spot. What with wind, waves, flatwater spots and more importantly windsurfers. Besides, we have good wine.
Cheers
PS We are also KEEN to have it. Makes a big difference. |
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PESAILOR (guest)
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| 14/03/2006 7:22 PM |
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Why should the pe sailors host an event that caters primarily for the racing/slalom fraternity when there are basically only wave sailors in pe. We would rather keep hosting our annual wave event which in the last 2 events has had more entrants than the nationals each year, and at least we can be almost assured of a contest. I mean lets face it, when last has there been a proper wave event at the nationals...PE 2002?
Last years event did not even yield a result(never saw any posted on the windsurfingsa site, only slalom and racing) besides, that can hardly qualify as a wave event, freestyle yes, but not a wave sailng event. So if the racers wanna race then let them arrange there own regatta, and leave us alone in our happy little corner where the water is warm the waves good and uncrowded. |
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Guest (guest)
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| 14/03/2006 10:14 PM |
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True, the nationals should be hosted at different places if the sailors from the city or place hosting it actually want it there! Besides, the nationals of late haven't been worth the trip, but this is mainly organisation and the actual people trying to organise it! Some nationals have been good, but the venues were not etc. etc.
The worst part of it all has been the ridiculous domination of Formula and Slalom and people trying to claim titles at a National event for these two disciplines alone. Forgeting the fact that a true National champ should be someone scoring well
in Wave, Slalom and Formula. Yes, all this take lots of organising, sponsorship etc. and there are a few very capable people.
So maybe PE should continue with their little wave events if this is what they do best. There are tons of freestyle sailors
around and yet we hardly see any events, what a shame ! There is also Super X, but this could take a bit longer to set up.
Anyway, good luck to those who are at least trying to run an event, even though they are not quite up to scratch. |
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Guest (guest)
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| 15/03/2006 7:43 AM |
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I've never seen PE sailors attend any other events other than those hosted in PE. It seems they dont like to travel out side their comfort zone. So unless it is held in PE they are never going to be happy. And because they are not willing to actually organize nationals does it really matter what one PE sailor on this forum has to say?
Maybe we should first hear from the other PE sailors first, maybe there are those that would like to see nationals at PE this year.
Another point: if there are mainly wave sailors in PE anyway, then its not likely anyone from that area will claiming the national title. So why is it such a big deal to have it there in the first place?
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Shaun (guest)
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| 15/03/2006 8:02 AM |
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Posted By n/a on 15/03/2006 7:43 AM
I've never seen PE sailors attend any other events other than those hosted in PE. It seems they dont like to travel out side their comfort zone.
In fairness, this can be said of the Cape Town sailors too. The only guys who actually seem to travel are the Durban guys. Even this is dying off though.
It's kind of a catch 22 situation. If we offered to have the comp in Durban, but had 5 guys coming from the Cape, and 3 from PE, we'd probably have a whopping 15 guys at Nationals of which around half would only do one or the other event.
A well organised nationals in the Cape should attract more than this, but if it's left to the same people in the same place year after year, it will stagnate and die off to the same anyhow (experience has proved this time and again).
Personally I think it's dissapointing that the PE guys do not want the event there, but at the same time, no one really asked them? It was just kind of lumped on them from what I undestand.
It really is a pity that such a small sport is dogged by politicing that's sure to keepit exactly where it is.
Having said all of that, the PE guys are bound to deliver another awesome wave contest this season and hopefully there'll be more guys from all over the country attending.
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PESAILOR (guest)
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| 15/03/2006 8:14 AM |
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Dear Guest,
Well said on most of your points, however
"It seems they dont like to travel out side their comfort zone"
Is a little harsh, most of us love any excuse to get away, and every year a group of guys head to Cape Town in the xmas season. However please could you name a wave comp that has been held other than PE where the PE guys never showed. The one in Durban was poor example because the dates kept changing and unfortuneately at the end the date was a problem for most of the guys!(SHAUN!!) Since 2002 there have been 4 wave contests, and the one in durbs last year was the first time CT wave sailors actually attended. So, maybe its the CT guys who "dont like to travel out side their comfort zone" |
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desB
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| 15/03/2006 9:14 AM |
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By the sounds of things it seems that the real problem with events is that they are poorly supported by non locals. Maybe we should all make more of an effort to support events all over the country if we want to grow our sport.
I will support nationals if it was to be held in PE, I've always enjoyed the event held there. Not being a wave sailor (only started now in Jan) it would make sense for me to travel to PE for a wave only event.
If the PE wave event does cater for beginners in the waves I would probably try and make an effort to attend it this year. Advertizing goes a long way, never heard about it till now.
It would also be nice to see some PE sailors attending some Cape Events. |
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PESAILOR (guest)
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| 15/03/2006 2:21 PM |
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Des B
"It would also be nice to see some PE sailors attending some Cape Events."
Wave events?? in Cape town?? Dont think there has been one in many years! Please read the above response I wrote to guest. |
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Eugene (guest)
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| 15/03/2006 2:23 PM |
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| Keep an eye open on this site and the windsurfingSA site for information regarding a Wave/Slalom event in PE. |
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desB
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| 15/03/2006 2:48 PM |
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Posted By n/a on 15/03/2006 2:21 PM
Des B
"It would also be nice to see some PE sailors attending some Cape Events."
Wave events?? in Cape town?? Dont think there has been one in many years! Please read the above response I wrote to guest.
Agreed, but there is more to windsurfing than just wave. Cape Town should have more wave (even one will do for now) events, and maybe PE should cater for more than just wave.
Hopefully we (Cape Town) sailors can get a bunch of guys together to support the event Eugene mentions. |
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Eugene (guest)
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| 15/03/2006 5:47 PM |
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Des ,
Yeah that would be nice, hope we can return the support, but for me personally dec/jan is impossible to get to ct due to bus. reasons |
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Shaun (guest)
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| 15/03/2006 8:20 PM |
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Hey PESAILOR,
Just for the record.I had NOTHING to do with the Durban wave event aside from sponsoring some prizes and assisting with the judging.
I'm sorry if the dates kept changing, but best take that up with the organiser :-) |
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PESAILOR (guest)
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| 16/03/2006 7:50 AM |
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Sorry Shaun, I did not mean it in that sense, its just that I only saw it came out that way once I posted it. I just wanted to draw your attention to the fact because in your earlier reply (and it was agood one) you pointed out that only 3 sailors from pe where at the durban event.
My apologies. |
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